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Posted By: Jim Carroll
26-Jul-18 - 07:37 PM
Thread Name: New Book: Folk Song in England
Subject: RE: New Book: Folk Song in England
I've just checked in the Canadian Book of Folk Songs, edited by Edith Fowke
She give O.J. Abbott's version - her note says he got it from an Irishman, but she also indicates there was a 10 verse version
She also makes clear that she believes it to be of English origin but pointing out that the Carpet weaves in the song were common to the English weaving industry
Technically, it is as English as I am Irish - by heritage
I recollect that O J Abbot's tune was identical to Bert's
I recollect that a number of Berts songs were acquired in the same way - Fowke being one of his sources - not so much dishonesty as an occasional ambivalence - Bert wearing his singers hat, in fact.

When Fowke was working on The Penguin Book she recruited Peggy Seeger to transcribe many of the songs and tunes - she sent her a large number of field recordings to work from.
Ewan and Peg were always generous with the recordings they owned and the Fowke Collection was on their shelves - the rest is history
I treasure that collection as a research guide to what was taken from Britain and Ireland by the emigrants in the 19th century
It is been of immense use in my current work in gatherings examples of Irish versions of Child Ballads
Jim