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Posted By: The Sandman
17-Dec-17 - 02:34 AM
Thread Name: New Book: Folk Song in England
Subject: RE: New Book: Folk Song in England
''22Did you miss the statement which was probably the truest thing anybody ever said about the definition of folk song?
"If 'Little Boxes' and 'The Red Flag' are folk songs. we need a new term to describe 'The Outlandish Knight'. Searching for Lambs' and 'The Coal-owner and the Pitman's Wife'.
Jim Caarroll
the above statement is nonsense, little boxes and the red flag are folk songs under certain circumstances, eg.. if they are sung by football crowds, the red flag also uses a traditional tune.
jim, is trying to define folk songs according to his agenda, a certain sound[ eg the use of the major key the dorian mode and the mixolydian mode.
'The Outlandish Knight'. Searching for Lambs' and 'The Coal-owner and the Pitman's Wife'., are songs that i like, but whether i like them and whether jim carroll likes them does not make them folk songs acording to the 1954 definition,