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Thread #154747   Message #3635947
Posted By: Musket
23-Jun-14 - 06:37 AM
Thread Name: Eliza Carthy MBE
Subject: RE: Eliza Carthy MBE
Having been on both sides of this Doug, (when I held public office, I had opportunity to nominate in certain categories,) I would agree that there seemed to be more success when the volunteer was also connected with public sector in some way unrelated, but I still hold onto the "coincidence" idea in principle. Every caretaker with a gong indicates the work of caretakers, not just the caretaker. OBE always stood for Other Bugger's Efforts. (CBE and MBE tend to be more personal achievement whereas OBE indicates the "type of service that gets recognition.")

The sports, music, acting and otherwise celebrity awards do have their place. For "real" people to be given something that is a big deal for the famous does, in my experience, add to it. One lady who got one as a volunteer helper in a care home locally, when I asked her what her day was like, spent the next ten mins listing the famous people she was waiting with. May seem facile to some, but celebrity works. We wouldn't have celebrity without it.

Al. I'll check to see who Mandella left his rhino whip to in his will. Also, you can read the statistics of country and ethnicity of recipients. They make interesting reading for those who dismiss the honours system as repressing British aggression.

Lloyd George set up the universal pension on the proceeds of British aggression. Beveridge's welfare state proposals had as the largest risk to success in his introduction, the dismantling of the Empire.