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Thread #153915   Message #3622561
Posted By: Steve Gardham
27-Apr-14 - 09:41 AM
Thread Name: Origins: Child Ballads: US Versions Part 7
Subject: RE: Origins: Child Ballads: US Versions Part 7
Yes, I remember there was one version but I hadn't registered that Gainer was involved, and at the time I wasn't aware of the problems surrounding Gainer's work. I had assumed that what had happened was that an earlier collector, perhaps Sharp who was in the same area, had visited the singer or her informant and told her erroneously she was singing a version of 'The Brown Girl'. And like all obliging source singers she immediately incorporated a Brown Girl into her version of Sally and Billy. As a collector myself I have come across similar instances.

Now we have the absolute proof online that 295B is a forgery my paper is somewhat redundant, but I can look at the possibility of sending you a copy if it's of any use. In the original paper I presented probable motives for Baring Gould's sending Child these concoctions, but rightly or wrongly the editors decided to cut this.

Wearing my hat as a singer my version of TS is always in flux. It is based on the Driffield version from closest to where I live but is made up of all the bits I've picked up over the years orally. It does include the body parts/fiddle resuscitation-ritual.

Here's my first verse

There was an old man in the north country
Hi down derry down dee
There was an old man in the north country
Valid we ought to be
There was an old man in the north country
And he had daughters one, two and three
And I'll be true to my love if my love will be true to me.

With all of this repetition and chorus it's very easy to make up the rest as you go along.