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Thread #147102   Message #3451777
Posted By: Steve Shaw
14-Dec-12 - 09:37 AM
Thread Name: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
Subject: RE: BS: 'Gay marriage' question
No it would not. Because what Steve Shaw stated is a tautology. Try this test...substitute any other group of people and the word for those who shun an fear them. For example:

"I have yet to meet anyone opposed to whites marrying blacks who is not a racist"

Is that a bigoted assumption?


"Tautology"? It was a statement of fact (unless you disbelieve me, which you are quite entitled to do). I have yet to meet an opponent of gay marriage is who not homophobic. When I said that, I went to on to reject the usual reasons given for opposition, that marriage, traditionally, has always been between a man and a woman, that marriage should have the potential for offspring. I reject those claims, first because they usually emanate from a religious context (which is always suspicious to say the least) and second because they make a comfortable curtain for homophobes to hide behind, Pilate-like, saying with a shrug, well, that's how it is and we'll have to live with it, I suppose. When I type "I have yet to meet..." you would be entirely wrong to read that as my possessing any certainty in this matter. I'm open to persuasion from good, honest people who can supply good, honest, persuasive, agenda-free reasons why two men or two women should not get married and call themselves married.

By the way, I can guarantee that, by any definition of racist you care to choose, anyone who opposes the marriage of a black person and a white person, in principle, because of their skin colour (I do try to avoid traps) is racist.