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Posted By: The Sandman
22-May-11 - 08:42 AM
Thread Name: What exactly does 'Sing in your own voice' mean?
Subject: RE: What exactly does 'Sing in your own voice' mean?
"ITS NOT JUST A MATTER OF TASTE IT IS INAPPROPRIATE"

Inappropriate is a value judgement, Dick. I don't particularly like Peter Pears' renditions of folk songs either. But the versions by Sam Larner et al of songs that had been the popular music of 150 years before, represent only a snapshot of the history of the way those songs have been sung over many generations. And although I love listening to those renditions, much prefer them to certain other ways of singing the same material, and have my own ideas about how I like to perform traditional songs in 2011, if pressed on the point of principle I'd say that 'Voice of the People' style performances are no more definitive than '18th century theatrical', 'Cecil Sharpian', '1970s folkie', 'folk-rock', 'psych-folk' or whatever-the-hell-you-like alternative ways of singing old songs.
NO, here is the argument why that is incorrect, classical singers have defintion of how opera should be sung[ that may be their value judgement] but that is how classical singing for opera is taught, the singers are taught a technique for breathing through the mouth, and for using vibrato.
Traditional singers who learned their songs by a certain process , sang their songs in a natural way , [that is, they were not trained to breathe through their mouth whilst singing] this is not a value judgement but a fact, so to continue the style in an authentic manner, singers of traditional songs[whether they are revival or traditional have just sung the songs in a natural manner, that is breathing naturally though both nose and mouth, not consciously avoiding singing through the nose]THEY ALSO GENERALY AVOIDED VIBRATO BECAUSE IT WAS NOT NECESSARY, because they were not singing in large rooms that required the use of heavy vibrato.,
These days OF COURSE WE HAVE AMPLIFICATION TO AMPLIFY SOUND.
If Opera singers and jazz singers define how their material should be sung, and they do
OPERA SINGERS ARE TAUGHT TO SING IN A CERTAIN WAY
why cannot singers of traditional songs define that their is an appropriate way to sing traditional songs, and that is the way they have always been sung by traditional singers, the natural way [which to some extent employs a nasal voice[ nasal voice is defined by someone breathing through their nose while singing].
do you or do you not agree? that it would be inappropriate to sing opera in the style of walter pardon or louis armstrong?
please answer
LOGICALLY
if opera singers are taught to sing in a certain way[which they are,] why should they be a musical exception, there are authentic ways to sing opera, their are authentic way to sing traditional songs[ not in the operatic style of peter pears]his style is inappropriate and not authentic.
neither is it correct according to classical singers to sing opera in the style[that partly uses a nasal breathing] of Dick Miles, BrianPeters, loiusa killen, walter pardon sam larner, martin carthy, or anyone else that has been influenced by traditional singers and sings in a natural way rather than a trained way.