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Thread #86221   Message #3098453
Posted By: Teribus
19-Feb-11 - 01:16 AM
Thread Name: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!
Subject: RE: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq!
1. December, 1982. Hughes Aircraft ships 60 Defender helicopters to Iraq.

These are light unarmoured helicopters, the US sales were of civilian helicopters, not the military versions. Italian subsidiary of Bell Helicopters, Bell Textron, informs the US embassy in Rome that it has declined a request from Iraq to militarize recently purchased Hughes helicopters. [Source: BATTLE, 2/25/2003]. Just for information the 60 Helicopters were delivered in December 1983, not 1982.

2. 1982-1988. Defense Intelligence Agency provides detailed information for Iraq on Iranian deployments, tactical planning for battles, plans for air strikes and bomb damage assessments.

This is perfectly in line with US Foreign Policy for the region as defined by President Jimmy Carter and known internationally as the "Carter Doctrine".

3. November, 1983. A National Security Directive states that the U.S would do "whatever was necessary and legal" to prevent Iraq from losing its war with Iran.

Once again in line with established US Foreign Policy, US interests, the interests of US Allies in the Arabian Gulf and with the general thinking of the United Nations. No-one wanted an outright victor in the Iran/Iraq War. Ensuring that one side does not lose does not necessarily mean that you will do everything in your power to ensure that that side wins.

4. Donald Rumsfeld -Reagan's Envoy- provided Iraq with chemical & biological weapons November, 1983.

I find it strange that anyone still offers this old chestnut up in discussion. It is as true as Iraqi soldiers pulling the plug on incubators in Kuwaiti Hospitals and the documentary evidence supplied to the US Intelligence Agencies by the British that Saddam attempted to buy Uranium Yellow Cake from Niger. Fact - Donald Rumsfeld and Saddam Hussein only ever met once. The actual meeting notes have been in the public domain now for years, and not once throughout the entire course of that 90 minute meeting are weapons for Iraq discussed, no weapons are offered, no weapons are requested. So I am sorry Amos but this dog just does not hunt - Donald Rumsfeld did not provide Iraq with chemical and biological weapons in November, 1983 or at any other time. The meeting by the way took place on the 20th of December, 1983 not November (That is a matter of record, but it illustrates the attention to detail paid by whatever source you used, they made a similar slip of one year with the helicopter delivery as well)

The purpose of Rumsfeld's visit was to attempt to re-establish diplomatic relations with Iraq and to also discusses US interest in the construction of the Iraq-Jordan Aqaba oil pipeline to be built by Bechtel.

Rumsfeld did not raise the subject of Iraqi use of chemical weapons with Saddam Hussein but he did mention to Tariq Aziz, Iraq's Foreign Minister in a separate meeting that US concerns about Iraq's chemical weapons, explaining that US "efforts to assist [Iraq] [are] inhibited by certain things that made it difficult for us.