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Thread #124666   Message #2756205
Posted By: michaelr
30-Oct-09 - 07:49 PM
Thread Name: BS: The problem at Mudcat? Moderated thread
Subject: RE: BS: The problem at Mudcat? Moderated thread
Joe, I have great respect for you, and I really don't want to appear to tar you with a broad brush, or to turn this into a fight (although "I thought you were smarter than that" does ring just a bit condescending). Let me just respond to your statement that "There is no such policy, stated or unstated. What was done was an aberration".

That is the same argument ("a few bad apples") made by the US military and numerous government officials when the tales and photos regarding prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib/Guantanamo/etc. were made public. I'm afraid it doesn't wash. Such criminal behavior would not have been possible on the scale it was perpetrated without implicit condoning by the management, i.e. an unstated policy. The same is true for what's been going on in the Catholic Church, and to me is a clear symptom of systemic internal rot.

You also said, "The statement also makes the very clear implication that ALL members of the Catholic Church have condoned the child molestation problem".

No, it does not. I'm sorry you read it that way, but it is not at all what I was saying. I'm sure that most people (of faith or no) abhor these practices. It's the church's management that has condoned the problem by systematically shielding the offenders from dismissal and prosecution.

Virginia Tam, you wrote: "Expecting someone to disengage from an organisation due {to} problems with a minority is bit like expecting people who can't abide any (even trace) amount of pollution to move to another planet. Isn't it better to stay in and work to fix the problem?"

The pollution/another planet analogy is hardly apt. Rather, following your line of thought, should folks not then try to reform the BNP from the inside, instead of turning their backs in disgust?