Mudcat Café message #2755521 The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #124666   Message #2755521
Posted By: VirginiaTam
30-Oct-09 - 06:50 AM
Thread Name: BS: The problem at Mudcat? Moderated thread
Subject: RE: BS: The problem at Mudcat? Moderated thread
Once upon a not so very long time ago, when I was a fire breathing baptist, I used to love to watch Catholic masses on TV. Something so calming and lovely in the Latin and English congregational chanting.

My baptist "friends?" would have frowned on such activity as of the devil. What head shaking and out loud commentary there was the one time my daughters and I sang Panis Angelicus and Ave Maria during singing sessions after a church homecoming.

How I wondered in my feeble brain, is it so terribly different from reading the scriptures in unison and singing hymns every Sunday morning? Catholics believe in the same Father God and Son Christ. They take communion and practice baptism after a fashion. How is supplication to Christ or the Holy ghost (I never understood this abstract) so far from praying to saints for help and forgiveness?

For michaelr - pedophilia and incest is not unheard of in the baptist community. Expecting someone to disengage from an organisation due problems with a minority is bit like expecting people who can't abide any (even trace) amount of pollution to move to another planet. Isn't it better to stay in and work to fix the problem? Isn't this thread a microcosm of just that. Staying and trying to work out a problem?

Anyway-- in my early 30's my AMEN (so be it, that's the way it is), turned into an AHEM (hang on minute, something's not quite right here) and then to AHA (I can only answer to myself and my fellow human beings). The figure of Jesus, gives me a good pattern to follow in dealings with mankind. For that I am eternally grateful. Do I want to ascribe to a belief that he is God or the Son of God? No. All the writings through all the ages are just that, writings set down by human beings. Not the hand of a god. Humans are imperfect and fallible and so the writing will be. Language develops and interpretations distort over time and cultures. Nothing written can be known as solidly, irrefutably, provably true. End of!

But our own hearts can be true, known and shown in the here and now. "A soft answer turneth away wrath" is effective for some. For others it is incitement to sneering, disrespect, even violence. But here goes anyway.

Mudcat is our village. OURS! To some it is sanctuary. To some a dumping ground. It belongs to all who wish to live here. Is it out of the question to take personal responsibility for how we look after it and treat everyone who lives here?