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Thread #109821   Message #2298887
Posted By: Big Mick
27-Mar-08 - 01:56 PM
Thread Name: BS: Religious freedom, or murder?
Subject: RE: BS: Religious freedom, or murder?
Exactly, Wesley. Folks that always try to claim the high ground make charges without reading. I did not defend these folks. I think they are wrong, and that the authorities should have gotten involved. But that leads us to another problem, and that is the underfunding of public agencies charged with these protections, which leads to cases like this which should have never fallen through the cracks. Instead of you good folks (sincere comment)focusing on all of us with one form or another of theist philosophy, you need to be focusing (IMO)on electing officials who will step up and use our budget to fund things like this, instead of massive phony wars in Iraq.

And I do not believe there is any ground to give on the right of parents to raise their children with the belief system of the parents. Just as Amos and others have every right to teach their belief system to the children, so do the rest of us. The systems are already in place to remove children from dangerous environments for physical, and mental abuse. If one can show that the religious practices are dangerous to the health AND WELFARE of the child, then they can be removed from the home. What some of the anti-theists would like to do is remove my ability to teach my beliefs, only because they find them ridiculous, or anti-intellectual based on their beliefs. That is uncivilized and undemocratic, and amounts to repression of one of the basic tenets of our society, that being freedom to practice my religion and its beliefs. Simply put, it is none of your business what I teach my children, as long as it is not injurious to society. You good people (again a sincere comment)always teach tolerance. You should also be tolerant of my right to teach the world to my kids as I see it. You don't need to agree with my beliefs, but many of you know me. I raise good kids, I fight for worthy causes, I pay my bills, I play music, have many friends who are atheists and pagans and Hindi and Baptist and Jewish and Moslem, I help others, and I try to leave the place better than I found it. All that, and a theist, imagine that!!!

All the best,