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Thread #98509   Message #2286256
Posted By: TheSnail
12-Mar-08 - 09:26 AM
Thread Name: Folk Process - is it dead?
Subject: RE: Folk Process - is it dead?
I agree wholeheartedly with GUEST,PMB. Jim Carroll's "200-odd plus identifiable versions of Barbara Allen" didn't arise spontaneously and independantly in 200 different traditions. The song was passed from singer to singer and community to community over the centuries. I doubt if either the original song or the original community from which it came still exist. Of course, if that original song still existed, it would not be a folk song under the 1954 definition. Society changes, communities rise and fall, generally depending on how they earn their living, but the songs and the music go on.

I really don't understand what you want, Jim. You complain that people are not singing the songs but then tell those who do that they are not folk singers because they are not part of the tradition. You say "It really pisses me off when somebody describes our work as 'museum keeping'." and then say "Nowadays, our best hope is to archive our recordings and make them available that way."

Do you want people to sing the songs or not? If so, you're in luck because I hear them on a regular basis. On another thread you said "There is some (not enough, for my taste) excellent singing here from people who respect and enjoy the songs enough to put in the effort. Didn't get that in my last few experiences in the UK - sorry."

I'm sorry, Jim, you went to the wrong clubs.