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Thread #20688   Message #217628
Posted By: GUEST,Okiemockbird
25-Apr-00 - 10:59 AM
Thread Name: BS: Sowhain?/Celtic New Year
Subject: RE: BS: Sowhain?/Celtic New Year
Peg, though you make use of Hutton's work, you seem to disagree with him on some points. Hutton finds no evidence of an association of Samhain with the dead prior to the establishment of Hallowmas on that date by northern European Christianity. He also finds no clear evidence that Samhain was "the" "Celtic" new year. He thinks it might have been one date (among others) for reckoning the beginning of the year in Ireland. One folklorist in (I think) the 19th century observed new-year's-like customs being practised on November 1st or November Eve in one part of Scotland. But I don't recall Hutton or anyone else citing, say, a medieval annalist or a legal document reckoning the years from November 1st, rather than from January 1st, or December 25th, or the 1st Sunday of Advent as context required. (Obviously, though, if a king acceded or was crowned on November 1st, the N year of king X would begin on the same date. I don't no any cases of any writers or documents doing even this, though there may be some.)