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Posted By: GUEST,Bob Coltman
07-Jun-06 - 10:42 AM
Thread Name: Lyr Req: Silver Dollar / Man without a Woman
Subject: RE: Origins: Roll a Silver Dollar/Man Withou
Thanks, Peace, great find.

Owing to the webpage suggested by Peace,

http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/vista/3255/silverdollar.htm

here's what we know so far:

"Silver Dollar"
written 1907 or earlier by Alfred Williams.   
First recorded 1907 on Victor.
Covered by the vaudeville/pop singer Billy Murray on Victor, 1908.
Jack Palmer and Clarke Van Ness revived and copyrighted the song in 1939, presumably this second recording is the source for the now widely popular version.

Going by the lyrics quoted at the website above, "Silver Dollar" and "Man Without a Woman" are the same song.

Interestingly, though the website quotes the Murray and Palmer/Van Ness lyrics as well as a rugby version, none of the three offer any significant lyrics beyond the version that's now universally known.

I had suspected --- I still suspect --- that there may have been more to the original lyrics, but no luck so far in finding any but those.

Bob