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Thread #25017   Message #1754961
Posted By: GUEST,Bob Coltman
07-Jun-06 - 10:21 AM
Thread Name: Lyr Req: Silver Dollar / Man without a Woman
Subject: Origins: Roll a Silver Dollar/Man Withou
I posted this query in the Lyr Req: Silver Dollar / Man without a Woman thread, but it occurs to me that might get missed. So I'm starting this to ask:

Can anyone help trace the origins of "Roll a Silver Dollar" and the linked song, "Man Without a Woman"?

They have entered tradition, at least among a large cross-section of American campers, hikers, school kids, collegians and so on. But they aren't at all folk-sounding.

They sound like 19th-early 20th century popular songs.

They must once have been longer. I'm guessing they are two separate songs, and that what has survived in each case is the refrain from the original song.

It would be great to be able to identify the originals, when published, with their full lyrics, composers, etc.

Any clues? Any research ideas?