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Teribus BS: Catalonia: pros and cons of separation (254* d) RE: BS: Catalonia: pros and cons of separation 23 Oct 17

"Decisions are made by all 28 nations, of which we are currently one, and a very influential one at that"

Care to tell us WHEN the UK has been influential as far as the EU goes?

" As for that EU army, as long as the UK is a member it can never happen. Ironic, innit, that it will be far more on the cards after we leave and no longer have the veto as we do now. And you can bet your life we'll have to be a part of it."

Care to explain why we will "have to be part of it"? Those seeking to establish an EU army, are they the same European nations who have consistently failed to meet their obligations towards NATO? If they cannot stump up the required 2% GDP for defence with regard to NATO what on earth makes you, or anyone else for that matter, think that they will be prepared to pay for a European force? Or does the EU hope that they can fudge that by staying in NATO?

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