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Teribus BS: Robert Owen (122* d) RE: BS: Robert Owen 26 Sep 17

The Soviet Union was a total screw up virtually from day one. Driven by some idiotic ideology that did not pay the blindest notice to the desires and needs of the people. All Lenin, Stalin & Co achieved was to replace an aristocratic hierarchy with one based on political acceptability (IIRC less than 5% of the population of the U.S.S.R. were members of the Communist Party - It was not one of those barrel up and join if you felt like it organisations - It was strictly by invitation only and members got all the perks).

During the Second World War Stalin killed more Russians than the Germans did.

Not once during the reign of the Czars did Russia ever find itself in a position where it could not feed its population - The history of the U.S.S.R. shows us that not once in its entire existence did the U.S.S.R. EVER manage to feed itself - nothing to do with invading armies and foreign interference - Stalin as a deliberate political move killed off everybody in Russia who knew how to farm efficiently - ideology defeating common sense.

But as we are supposed to be discussing Owen - His venture in the USA failed because it consisted of some well meaning souls, some idealists, a load of shysters and the remainder free-loaders. Guess which groups won through? In his philosophy Owen completely forgot that human beings are individuals each with their own aspirations and motivations - they did not fit into the moulds he imagined for them, New Harmony, Indiana was a failure.

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