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Gibb Sahib Chantwell: Southern Antillean Chantymen (14) RE: Chantwell: Southern Antillean Chantymen 22 Aug 17


Thanks, Phil. Could you fill in more descriptive details. For example, I sad that the men I talked to used "chantwell" so and so.

I referred to cariso, perhaps mischaracterizing its relationship to calypso. I understand it relates to kalinda, but I'm not asserting anything -- rather just using it as a prompt. Please enlighten.

Here is kalinda with the song of "Rosie", the relative of what is also documented as a ring play song "Coming Down with Bunch of Roses" and Bahamian and Afro-American sailors' song "Come Down, you Bunch of Roses."
https://youtu.be/LS1McrmSzHA

My point having been that the term "chantyman" should not be stuck linked to the genre of chanties (i.e. as often conceived in these discussions, a sailor's work-song) but theorized more broadly in terms of a lead singer in culturally related Afro-Caribbean/American traditions. Work is at best only a setting for the songs, and not the number one defining element.

The Carriacou men did not seem to imply that a "chantwell" was exclusively female, so while the derivation "chantre elle" makes sense, it appears chantwell may have taken on a life apart from the original literal meaning. I'd be interested to know where that does and doesn't hold.


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