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Gibb Sahib Chantwell: Southern Antillean Chantymen (14) RE: Chantwell: Southern Antillean Chantymen 22 Aug 17

Thanks, Phil. Could you fill in more descriptive details. For example, I sad that the men I talked to used "chantwell" so and so.

I referred to cariso, perhaps mischaracterizing its relationship to calypso. I understand it relates to kalinda, but I'm not asserting anything -- rather just using it as a prompt. Please enlighten.

Here is kalinda with the song of "Rosie", the relative of what is also documented as a ring play song "Coming Down with Bunch of Roses" and Bahamian and Afro-American sailors' song "Come Down, you Bunch of Roses."

My point having been that the term "chantyman" should not be stuck linked to the genre of chanties (i.e. as often conceived in these discussions, a sailor's work-song) but theorized more broadly in terms of a lead singer in culturally related Afro-Caribbean/American traditions. Work is at best only a setting for the songs, and not the number one defining element.

The Carriacou men did not seem to imply that a "chantwell" was exclusively female, so while the derivation "chantre elle" makes sense, it appears chantwell may have taken on a life apart from the original literal meaning. I'd be interested to know where that does and doesn't hold.

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