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GUEST,Gibb Sahib BS: Film-The hateful 8 (20) RE: BS: The hateful 8 11 Jan 16

I think it's a great film.

You won't get the intermission unless you go to one of the special screenings, projected on 70mm (rather than digitally). Despite the fact that I should have known better, I went to one of the "regular" showings and was disappointed by the lack of intermission (plus, about 20 min. were edited out). My own fault.

Tarantino is a bit of a goof, yes, and he does lots of tacky stuff, yes. But there's substance to what he does -- substance that many don't agree with, but substance nonetheless.

The more you are familiar with cinematic history, the more films you've watched -- especially films since the 1960s -- the more you will "appreciate" what he does. Watching his films is like having a good conversation with someone intelligent -- again, even if that person is someone you quite strongly disagree with.

One has to know, for instance, that the Kiwi stuntwoman Zoe Bell, who appears in a sort of cameo, is intentionally "bad." Her character is anachronistic and her tone spoils the tone of the setting. What Tarantino is doing is messing with viewers, putting a stunt person -- whom viewers would have seen as a body double in previous films -- in a speaking role. Many will object on principle to such "clever" gestures, but I think there is a place for such things in some films.

I call his style in this film "talksploitation":
1) Very dialogue heavy; you have to be "into" dialogue to enjoy it, and you have to imagine watching a stage play
2) Even if you're on board with the stage play style, you also have to be willing to sit with lots of "talk" that is there just for the pleasure of talk. It's not necessarily crucial dialogue that serves a tight function, rather it's just there because you like chit chat. Some people can't stand that. I get it. But others love it, just to sit with someone who has the gift of the gab. Tarantino has the gift of the gab, and he very deliberately makes his characters that way, even while knowing it will alienate a large portion of audience. (His film "Death Proof" was an extreme example of this.)

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