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ollaimh BS: Vilnai: inflict a 'shoah' on Gaza (698* d) RE: BS: Vilnai: inflict a 'shoah' on Gaza 11 Dec 12

i agree that israel is inflicting human rights violations and crimes against humanity on the palestinians. the treatment of the palestinian authority run areas in gaza and the west bank is atrocious.

however i rarely get involved because the leadership of the palestinians had been fascist for a long time. i have never supported fascists and i am not going to start now.

that being said israel should be subjected to massive internationalsanctions untill they remove all the settlements that were put in place after the oslo accords. this continuing land grab is the major bock to peace. they would still get more land than in 1967 but the palestinian territoru would be a viable nation, which is isn;t now, and the palestiaian economy would possibly be able to grow independant of employment in israel. as long as israel keeps taking more and more land they will have violence. i don't support that violence, but that's a fact of life.

its just like ireland, as long as the british kept taking more and more land, and driving more and more people over seas, they had violence. both are a cycle of violence that requires the agression and land expansion to stop, just to start the peace process/ in both the violence will continue in some forms for decades,that's a fact of life. people don't forget like they are told to. any expansionist state has to stop before peace is a possibility, and accept that the reaction may take decades to die down.

the only other alternative for an expansionist state is total genocide of the natives--which has been tried many times, but i don't think israel can get aweay with that.

israelis clearly think that they can continue this policy as they have gotten away with it for decades. all it will take is one terroist group to get a nuclear weapon to end it all. maybe it will never happen and maybe israel will get away with the land grabs forever, but its such a risky game.

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