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GUEST,josepp BS: History of Scientology-by josepp (78* d) RE: BS: History of Scientology-by josepp 15 Jul 12

/////Below is not a fact. It is clearly an opinion. It is clearly presented as the opinion of the author of the piece.   

"Although a shameless shyster and thief, we should not dismiss Hubbard as merely a huckster who used occultism strictly to further his own ends."/////

You have done no research on L. Ron Hubbard so where do you get off making this claim? Hubbard was a member of the OTO in Pasadena in the 40s which was run by a rocket scientist named Jack Parsons at the direction of Aleister Crowley in England. Parsons raved in his letters to Crowley about Hubbard as "the most Thelemic person" he had ever met and that they were going in the desert regularly in an attempt to create a "moon child." Crowley was immediately suspicious of Hubbard but could do nothing to keep Parsons and Hubbard apart.

The first thing Hubbard did was start screwing Parsons's wife, Betty. Parsons was so taken with Hubbard, though, that he accepted this. Crowley was furious when he heard about this but Parsons continued to hold Hubbard in high esteem and the moon child experiments continued causing Parson to neglect his duties of running the OTO which greatly displeased the other members--some of whom wrote to Crowley about it.

Hubbard married Betty in 1946 (despite being married to another woman at the time) and then the happy couple persuaded Parsons to sink his savings into a business they called Allied Enterprises. Hubbard continued to snow Parsons about having visions of the moon child which Parsons enthusiastically wrote about to Crowley who wrote to another member saying: "Apparently Parsons or Hubbard or somebody is producing a Moon Child. I get fairly frantic when I contemplate the idiocy of these louts."

But eventually, Hubbard and Betty fled Pasadena with Parsons's money that he had invested into Allied Enterprises. They bought a yacht with $10,000 of Parsons's money. Hubbard dubbed the yacht--surprise!--"Diane." Parsons chased them but they managed to put the vessel to sea but, as fate would have it, they ran into a squall, were badly damaged and were forced to return to port where Parsons took custody of his boat. He sued for his money but only received a small portion. After that, he severed all contact with L. Ron Hubbard but, by then, Crowley had replaced him as head of the OTO.

All this is covered in an earlier chapter that I haven't posted because it had nothing to do with Scientology. So, as you can see, Hubbard was a thief, a shyster, a liar, a conman. He was not to be trusted. His turning Dianetics into a church was similarly nothing but a con job. Everything he told people about himself to puff himself up were lies.

So I did not do a hatchet-job on him--I told the truth. Not that you care. You're just trying to be an asshole--and you're succeeding admirably.

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