Mudcat Café Message Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafeawe



User Name Thread Name Subject Posted
GUEST,SteveG How old are the oldest Child ballads? (51* d) RE: How old are the oldest Child ballads? 01 Sep 11


Whilst admitting my lack of knowledge of pre-1500 balladry the sceptic
in me points out I have not come across any notable evidence for the type of ballad that constitutes the bulk of Child's anthology pre-1500. What little there is is very scant, not just in Britain, but the rest of Europe. The subject matter is often earlier but there is no evidence to show that a ballad was written contemporary with the earlier events. There seems to be a big gap between the writing of the last sagas and romances, and the appearance of the first ballads.
Even so it would be great surprise if some of the content of the sagas and romances had not been incorporated into the later ballads. I have seen it expressed somewhere that the ballads predated the sagas, but I find this difficult to swallow. Most of the older books I've read present the theory that the European ballad style evolved in France from the carols which would seem reasonable to a layman like me.


Post to this Thread -

Back to the Main Forum Page

By clicking on the User Name, you will requery the forum for that user. You will see everything that he or she has posted with that Mudcat name.

By clicking on the Thread Name, you will be sent to the Forum on that thread as if you selected it from the main Mudcat Forum page.
   * Click on the linked number with * to view the thread split into pages (click "d" for chronologically descending).

By clicking on the Subject, you will also go to the thread as if you selected it from the original Forum page, but also go directly to that particular message.

By clicking on the Date (Posted), you will dig out every message posted that day.

Try it all, you will see.