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shipcmo Who was Paddy Doyle? (20) Who was Paddy Doyle? 27 Jan 11


There is an old sailing ship shanty titled "Paddy Doyle", used for "tossing the bunt", that was a common job in the older class of ships that carried single topsails, etc. The phrase goes: " we'll pay Paddy Doyle for his boots!"   According to Stan Hugill in his "Shanties from the Seven Seas"; "As to who Paddy Doyle was we have no historical evidence, but probably he was some Liverpool boarding-master from whom a clever seaman had swiped a pair of seaboots,...".   Now, I for one cannot believe a seaman of those days had that much of a conscience. Recently I have come upon an article by Fred H. Buryeson in the "Coast Seamen's Journal", June 23, 1909, where he states; "Paddy Doyle, by the way, was a Liverpool shoe-maker, known to all the "packet rats" sailing out of that port for the excellency of his sea-boots, and beloved for his readiness to trust any of the boys for the price of a pair when they were outward bound across "the big pond." Buryeson was on board the "Young America" in 1860.
From John Winrow, Assistant Curator, National Museums Liverpool: A Patrick Doyle listed in Gores Liverpool trade directory for 1841 owning a marine store close to the docks, Nelson court,'19, Queen street - stores, 12 and 14, Neptune street. It also lists a Hugh Doyle, boot & shoemaker, 79 Paradise Street, again not far from the docks.


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