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GUEST,ollaimh Songs you shouldn't sing in UK folk club (375* d) RE: Songs you shouldn't sing in UK folk club 19 Feb 10

read the tripartite report on northern ireland from the eighties. the ulster volunteer paramilitaries were supplied by the british army. this was asked in parliament and not denied. for those who know anything this is admission in the parliamentary system as denial thats untrue is still not acceptable in parliament.

this is not some ancient thing. the killings on bloody sunday were not a "cock up" they were murder, and were covered up for decdes, including false criminal charges against some law abiding one out side the english speaking world takes the government line seriuosly but in dear ole and bush america you just have to mutter about terrorista and murder is ok.

its the worst kind of disgusting racism and imperialist violence. there are many other examples. for cripes sake it was an empire.they were invading almost evey country in the world to steal what every they could to make a buck. they transported more slaves than any other country and comitted many massacres from india to africa. these would not be acceptable to any right thinking people. the irish fight for self determination was like any other fight for self determination.nelson mandela gave a speach on this subject saying so for example(and the british were amazed)

i really doubt that any modern irish really think that the murder of civilians was ok or would agree with the twenty year cover up, or think that the crimes against humanity were ok. that's what i'm saying . i am not suporting any political group or movement. however crimes against humanity , war crimes and murder are just that. to dismiss them is despicable and shouldn't be acceptable. however on list afetr list i see engishmen making cracks like bridges and no one seems to mind. he demeans his own humanity .

a few of you ought to self examine. what kind of people are you that you condone murder and war crimes, and respond with such frivolous cracks? again read the tripartite was extensively published in the economist and the toronto globe and mail. in additon to the arming protestant parmilitaries and giving them intell on which british citizens to assisinate, they reported there has never been a fair election in northern ireland, that the ruc and rur members formed nightime hit squads . not to mention mundane discrimination on housing education and welfare against the irish community. the uk was convicted in the european court of human right violations with their anti terrorist laws because they didn't meet human rights standards in europe, and continue to pay fines rather than amend them. the only amend ment has been to abolish the presumption of innocence in the uk.

and of course the repeat allegation that there's no difference between gaelic and terrorist. that kind of racism demeans you more than others.

good people take responsibility for their mistakes and crimes biot to try to claim no one is responsible or tyo blame the victums. it amazes me i have to make these points but we live in a world where power and money have the control. an amazing number of americans still worship was criminals like robert e lee who ordered the execution of black prisoners of war, and it is the direct result they tolerate massive deaths of civilians in iraq. and we live in a world where far too many british still think the problems inireland have nothing to do with them. well they elected those governemnt and sent the troops,but then many still believe in weapons of mass destruction. they elect governments that abolish the presumption of innocence and have anti terrorist laws that don't meet international and european standards.

as to capitalization,i leave small things to the small minds

stop demeaning youselves with cracks about murder and denialof responsibility and wow,you will grow as a person

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