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GUEST,Penny S.(elsewhere) BS: quiverful families? (68* d) RE: BS: quiverful families? 07 Oct 09

I've only just picked up on the way that this has gone. No, it was not that the families concerned were evangelicals. In this specific case, they were, and the arguments used in justification were based on evangelical thought, not Hasidic, Catholic or Mormon. Or Muslim, though I have not heard much about large families except associated with polygamy.
I have mentioned Catholic families further back, but the large families seem to have diminished, as the laity take a different stance from the hierarchy.
But I will include, if you wish, any group which uses this style of thought, encouraging women to have many pregnancies, and especially if this is in a place where the social problems, as well as the health ones mentioned by Alice, are going to be harmful.
In poor countries, the harm may be that many of the children die. It may be that many men who cannot afford to settle with families turn to violence instead, harming women and children, as well as combatants, in war.
In rich countries the harm may be the overuse of resources which are becoming scarcer, the acceleration of climate change and so on.
I will include any group which sees women as brood mares and keeps them from achieving their full potential as human beings, and as equals to be loved.
There are similar people in many groups - for people read men - who seek dominance this way. But among Christians they tend to be among the extreme evangelical Protestants. Not all of them by anmy means. In Catholicism, the men preaching are distinct from the men becoming fathers.
It is noticeable the further you get from the mainstream in a faith, the more likely the submission of women is demanded.
Last night I watched a program I had recorded in which a very pert woman presenter went to see polygamous Mormons. Same preaching on overbreeding - so the women join their menfolk in the next life with divine powers. What happens to the surplus males was not made clear.
I haven't heard anything lately about other religions. If anything relevant turns up I'll attack them, too. Except that I thought I was making a justifiable comment of criticism, not an attack.
Nice things about evangelicals - they go out and help people on the street. They support each other in difficulties. They support neighbours in difficulties.

But some of them do not think things through.


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