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Joe Richman BS: Immediate vs phased withdrawal from Iraq (161* d) RE: BS: Immediate vs phased withdrawal from Iraq 19 Nov 06

Iraq's situation under Sadam Hussein wasn't a long-term answer to building a nation either. Sooner or later, his minority regime would have collapsed either from within, or more likely from intervention by a neighboring state. I don't think the death rate in Iraq today is all that different from when Sadam was in power, only that the communities suffering death are more fairly distributed now than then. It was like a well-shaken beer bottle, and it's not surprising that the ones who popped the top got a little bit wet.

A man at my work who is from there says that his Brother reports to him that the economy is better now, but the security situation is worse. (He is from the Shia faith and lives in Baghdad now, although the family is from Basra.) Those who benefited from Sadam's kleptocracy aren't into giving up the big slice of pie without a fight.   Many Iraqis blame the Western Powers and Russia for keeping Sadam in power for all of those years, and that feeling hasn't gone away completely. Shi'ites might say 'thanks for eliminating Sadam, now get lost' if we try to dictate democracy (oxymoron intended).

I sometimes wonder what would've happened in South Africa if the Afrikaaner minority had decided to fight it out, or if Mandela had been like Mugabe.

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