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NH Dave BS: Why does everyone hate America (120* d) RE: BS: Why does everyone hate America 26 Mar 06


I suspect that everyone doesn't hate the US because everyone doesn't know of the US' existence.

I also suspect that there was a time when Germany could have conquered any nation she chose to attack, but this refers to Germany fighting a way, led by her military people. That having been said, Germany didn't attack one nation, she took nations on in numbers odd and even, and she wasn't led by her military commanders but by that hysterical little Austrian who seemed to take advice from every off the wall kook, including his astrologer, or astrologers.

I'm sorry it infuriates some on this list that the US didn't jump right into the fray, when German hordes overran Poland, France, or any of the other countries who didn't emerge from under the heels of tyrants of one type or another for many years. The US, by and large, was just coming out of a depression, where few people had two nickels to rub against each other, let alone dimes. We were not in a position to aid other countries at the beginning of the war, although many individuals tried very hard to slip across our border with Canada, and sign up in their Air Force to help England out in this time of trouble. Other pilots voluntarily left our Air Corps, and volunteered to fly for China as mercenaries, for mercenaries' wages. This one was approved of by our military and State Department. Our president did a nudge and wink and began "lending" Britain and her allies war material and shipping to get them to England, an act regarded by the Germans as an act of undeclared war.

By the time Japanese forces attacked out Navy at Pearl Harbor, we were more ready for way, although burdened by a large number of ineffective aircraft, ships, and tanks. The Japanese took care of many of our battleships berthed in Hawaii, as well as many of our aircraft, and we blew through many of our inferior tanks at Kasserine, and other North African battlegrounds. By this time we had our industry turned around into making war materials. Automobile companies made tanks and aircraft and typewriter companies made rifles and sub machine guns, machine pistols to our European friends. Japanese strategists may have been correct in their thinking that if they could devastate our Navy at Pear Harbor, they could prove us incapable of waging Naval war, and force a non-aggression treaty from us, effectively taking us out of a Pacific war.

This didn't happen for several reasons. They didn't knock out our carriers at Pearl, thus priming us to wage a Naval Aviation War in the Pacific, rather a battleship war, which the Japanese might have won. Secondly their declaration of war did not arrive, properly decoded and presented to our government prior to beginning the Pearl Harbor Strike. Thirdly, thanks to the Polish and British codebreakers we were able to read some but not all of the Japanese Naval Codes, and some of the German Naval Codes as well. This allowed us to neutralize Japan's Yamamoto, in a surgical strike on his transport aircraft by US fighter aircraft, in the Pacific, denying the Japanese his strategy and strategic thinking for the rest of the war.

We waged a fall-back war in the Pacific while we marshaled our forces and joined in an attack on Vichi French held areas in North Africa.   Our Marines island hopped closer and closer to Japan, while our Armies were pushing across North Africa, Sicily, up Italy, and then massed for the cross channel attack onto Normandy, in June of 1944. Less than a year later, German forces surrendered to Allied Forces, and then after numerous fire bomb raids on Japan, culminated by two atomic bomb attacks on Japan's main island, wound up the war in the Pacific, where Japanese military and diplomatic forces surrendered to Allied forces on the Battleship Missouri, in Tokyo Bay.

While we couldn't have successfully taken on either Germany or Japan in 1940, by 1942 our industry had switched to a war time footing, and were turning out one heavy bomber aircraft every hour, at Ford's River Rouge plant, and other factories were designing and producing bigger and better tanks, aircraft, and other weapons, and our training bases were turning out armies of trained motivated men and women to bring the fight to our enemies.

This effort was so successful that we were able to help defeat two major powers, and then maintain an occupying force in both Japan and Germany, a feat we have yet to even suggest in Afghanistan and Iraq, today.

Dave


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