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GUEST,Arne Langsetmo BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq! (862* d) RE: BS: WMDs WERE found in Iraq! 29 Nov 05

Teribus's New'Facts'R'Us litany:

1998 - Al-Qaeda attacks two US Embassies in East Africa and the USS Cole in the Yemen (Nothing to do with GWB or Tony Blair)

You must have hired Dick Cheney's fact checkers.

1998 - US President Bill Clinton advises UNSCOM personnel to leave Baghdad and initiates "Desert Fox" series of attacks on various sites and installations in Iraq. He does this without going to Senate, House of Representatives or the United Nations, citing Iraqi non-compliance with existing UN Security Council Resolutions. Everybody in the good old US of A are all quite happy because they are in the middle of putting their elected Head of State through the wringer because of a blow-job...

Ummm, nope. Not all are happy. In fact, the very Republicans busy licking the brown stuff out of Dubya's a$$ right now (but furtively looking sideways to see if they can slink off to keep from being drowned in the coming deluge [Cunningham's just the first drops of rain] were aghast at Clinton's temerity to take out Osama been Forgotten (nee "bin Laden" until Dubya figured he was too tough to catch with an entire military machine that spends as much as the next 10 combined, so he declared him "not important"). Unfortunately, Clinton's admitted extra-legal attempt wasn't successful, but in fact it at least came a lot closer than anything that Dubya's done....

2001 - Unlike Clinton, US President George W. Bush does not start lobbing bombs in all directions. He focuses on the group inside Afghanistan fighting the Taleban and decides to give them support. Result Northern Alliance defeats Taleban and drives them from power - No US invasion as some claim, no act of war as with Clinton, but the anti-war, anti-Bush crowd are up in arms.

And the local "help" that Dubya hired to do the grunt work takes money off both sides and lets Osama escape. Good, good, move. Yep, privatising and off-shoring security has to be one of Dubya's Einstein moments (of which there are legion).

But just a FYI, Afghanistan is still a problem. In fact, it's looking quite dicey there too with Karzai dubbed the "President of Kabul", and the warlords and/or even Taliban running significant areas of the country.

2002 - Precedent set by Bill Clinton in 1998, would have allowed GWB to launch an attack on Saddam Hussein and his regime in Iraq, nothing has changed,....

Thought you were complaining about that "precedent". Sorry, silly me. It's good precedent when Dubya follows it. But FWIW, there's a difference bewteen going after someone who attacked you, and going after someone who didn't. And a difference (albeit not legally too significant) between cruise missiles and staging a friggin' invasion and occupation....

You left out the part where sane heads told the maladministration their "intelligence" was full'o'shite, the part where the UNMOVIC inspectors, working under authority of that self-same UNSCR 1441, were doing their job and reporting there weren't any WoMD, and then the part where Dubya said "F*ck Saddam, we're taking him out" (followed by a pumped up "Feels good!" from the former cheerleader) and then invaded Iraq against the authority of UNSCR 1441 (not to mention against the wishes and intentions of Congress that had given him authority to use force if necessary, not just because he felt like it.....

And some of your other "facts" are also full'o'crap.

Have a good day.


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