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GUEST,Dale Lyr Req: Victoria (Grehan Sisters) (23) Lyr Add: VICTORIA (Grehan Sisters) 23 Jul 05

Well, I looked ~~ unsuccessfully, and finally lost patience. I decided to go with what I have in my word files. This might be as good a place as any to put it.

The following is from Snuffy and since italics are a bit hard to read, I will separate his part from mine with **********

from Marching through Georgia thread:
    I've had the original Grehan Sisters LP "On the Galtymore Mountains" (Transatlantic TRA160) (autographed by all three) since the 60's. Victoria is the first track, and like many others, it is often very difficult to decipher what they are singing. There are minor differences from Jim's posting, perhaps the biggest being "they're coming down for you, Victoria" in the chorus and verses 1 & 3. The Grehans credit the composer as Brian Na Barbar, rather than O'Higgins. Are they one and the same?

    The sleeve-notes give some background (but have been proved to be inaccurate for at least one other track):
    The decapitation of King Billy's statue in College Green, Dublin, the blowing up of the Equestrian Statue of King George II in St. Stephen's Green and the removal by violent action of the Lion and Unicorn emblem near Dublin Castle on the morning of Poppy Day 1937, set loyal people saying that means should be taken to protect the ugly and aggressive looking image of the Queen Victoria that stands on Leinster Lawn.

    (Brian Na Barbar)

    The lion and the unicorn were fighting for the crown,
    When up spoke Irish Cheddar1 and they both came tumbling down
    The second George departed too, from Stephen's Green in town,
    But they're coming down for you, Victoria!
    Victoria, they're coming for you soon,
    Victoria, it may be when the moon
    Is shining on December frosts or on the flowers of June
    But they're coming down for you, Victoria!

    A gas main2 burst in Belfast on the eve of Poppy Day,
    And loyal doors, and windows too, blew rapidly away.
    Came the dawn in Dublin, and the naughty so they say3
    Sent a message from the Castle to Victoria.

    Georgie lost the seat he had4; king Billy lost his head;
    The lion lost his balance and5 the unicorn he fled,
    And sure as you're a humpy stumpy bumpy lump of lead
    They'll be coming down for you, Victoria.

    Nelson's weather eye, they say, was looking out for squalls;
    They're nervous in the Phoenix Park and round old Dublin's walls
    But whosoever keeps his place and whosoever falls,
    They've a double date with you, Victoria !!!

    1. It certainly sounds like 'Irish Cheddar', but what does that mean?
    2. I had always heard 'A gatling burst'. On re-listening it does sound more like 'gas main', but it's impossible to be sure.
    3. Who or what are 'the naughty so they say'?
    4. I had always heard 'lost his seating'. Could be either
    5. Sounds more like 'from' to me
    WassaiL! V

OK, on to his notes.

1. It certainly is "Irish Cheddar." Some time ago I found a reference to this in SAOIRSE as "home-made explosives." I've always meant to relay this on to Snuffy, but kept forgetting, so here it is.

2. Sounds like "gas main" to me, too.
3. Also puzzled.
4. To add to the confusion, could it be "lost a city?"
5. I agree with Snuffy ~~ "from."

In addition to those, I hear one other different interpretation.

6. While I agree that "blew rapidly away" makes more sense, I actually hear "moved rapidly away."

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